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Old sled questions and answers
We at SnoRiders West receive a lot of enquiries about what old sleds are worth. If you have a question or comment on an old sled feel free to drop us a line at info@kpimedia.com. |
Polaris tow-behind
I have an old Polaris tow behind sled it has a wind shield and molded seat. Are there any web sites that show this kind of stuff?
—Doug,Utah
Hmmm...the only place I can think of that might have a photo of a Polaris tow behind is www.vintagesnowmobiles.50megs.com/PP4545.html. Also - try asking at www.VintageSleds.com in the Bull Sessions.
—Alex Lamore
Paint colour for 1963 - K55 Snow Traveller
What type of paint and color red did Polaris use on the 1963 - K55 Snow Traveller? I am starting to restore one that has been in the family sense new.
—Todd S. Laflin
The type of paint would have been alkyd enamel, (aka tractor paint). Apparently International Harvester Red is pretty close.
Polaris colors:
Medium blue: 14717-ppg
Midnight blue:17128-ppg
White/cream: 8346-ppg
White bright: 2185-ppg
Snow-Traveler Red : 70094-ppg
Autoboggan/Prairie Gold #2 : 60039-ppg
Sno-Traveler blue, hammertone finish; Demionsol blue : Sherwin Willaims : H6114L
Sherwin Williams phone number (612) 941-6070
All colors should be able to be cross-coded to other brands, Dupont, Sikkens, etc. except for the Sno-Traveler Blue. That is only available from Sherwin Williams.
—Alex Lamore
Alaskin snowmobile
Looking for photos of a vintage snomobile called "An Alaskin" it was manufactured in Minnesota in the 70's and was known for it's orange seat cushion.
—Don Nelson
This is bit of an odd-ball for sure and a rarity. Here are some pics and information from the web: www.vintagesnowmobiles.50megs.com/PP7048.htmlwww.vintagesnowmobiles.50megs.com/PP8396.html
—Alex Lamore
1971 Eskimo
I would like to find info. about a sled that I picked up. It is a71 eskimo from what I can tell.
—Larry Barton
An Eskimo is a bit of an odd-ball sled. Not a whole lot of them made. Here is some information on them /www.vintagesnowmobiles.50megs.com/1971_ESKIMO_BROCHURE_MAIN.html
—Alex Lamore
1974 Polaris TC
I have a 1974 Polaris TC and I was wondering its worth if it was great condition since it's a rare machine what do u think it would be worth.
—Rene Fudge
The TC was built in 1974 and 1975 and was available in either a 250 or a 175 cc motor. If it is complete - with a good track, good hood (with louvers on the headlight grill), and original seat, it is likely worth in the $500 range.
—Shawn Horner of www.AllistonVintageSledShow.com
No spark
I have an Evinrude snowmobile that I can not get any spark, I tried a new power pack. I haven’t been able to find any one that knows anything about this OMC engine. If someone could help me I would appreciate it.
—Paul
Did you try disconnecting the ignition switch? Also check all your wiring for bad connections. Was the power pack new or a used one? These machines can be finicky. Also try a brand new set of spark plugs and plug wires. Some times the simplest solutions are all it takes.
If you are looking for further mechanical help, there are a few OMC guru's who hang out at www.VintageSleds.com in the Bull Sessions forum.
—Alex Lamore
Year of motor
I was wondering if you could tell me what year this motor is it is a 335cc one cylinder and the engine # 2086166 it has a HD 22 B tillotson carburetor on it?
—Trent Anderson
The motor is actually a 340 Single Motor from 1969 or 1970 if it is fitted stock with an HD Carb. This motor would have been in either a Ski-doo T'NT or a Ski-doo Olympique SS of that period. The motor is popular for vintage single cylinder racing.
—Alex Lamore
Gas mixture for Polaris Galaxy
Hey just wondering what the gas mixture ratio is on a 1980-1981 polaris galaxy.
—Colt Oliver
Should be able to run about 40:1 to 50:1 with a QUALITY oil (such as Shell Advanced).
If it has not been run in a while, run 32:1. Better to foul plugs rather than blow a motor up.
—Alex Lamore
How much?
Hoping someone out there can help me out. I have a Hus-Ski, not sure what year ( late 60's early 70's ? ) The engine HAS spark ( 148cc? ), needs new tracks, and skis for the back ( tow seat ). It has a front light and tail light, Overall decent shape but will need some time and money invested.
Here's the question:
I have someone who is very interested in buying it. I have NO IDEA of how much to ask for it. Do you know ?
I do know this thing is a collector and looks very cool, and know there are not too many around. Please help in finding a sale price for me.
—Mike Filippelli
If the body isn't perforated with rust nor craked and bent in weird ways, then you can expect $500 to $800. Photos are good. New skiis are $225 and rubber for the tracks may cost more than that. Rebuilding a set of tracks is a lobor of luv.
—Barrie Graham, Hus-Ski expert
Hus-Skis
I live in Fairbanks Alaska and my first snowmobile was a 1965 200A. Later I used a 444 for a short time and then went on toAlpines. We statred a Vintage rally here two years ago and I decided to find a 444 to restore. I was unable to locate one in Alaska so started on the internet. Eventually I bought a 1967 Diablo in Vermont and completely restored it.
I wasn't the only one who wanted to restore hus-skis and through out the last 2 years I have 6 friends that have old machines without engines or broken engines. Can you give me any leads on parts or engines for the L152 and L252. Possibly you know of someone that rebuilds them. We are unable to even locate old engines to rebuild. The broken ones have broken crankshafts.
Just last week I purchased another Diablo in Alaska. To everyone's knowlege, only 1 Diablo was sold in Alaska and that went to Barrow Alaska. I was aware of this one last year but of course it wasn't for sale then. I couldn't pass it up since it is complete.It originally came from Vermont as well.
—Jim Dieringer
If the rankshaft is broken on the clutch side of the motor and this is usually where they break, then it can be repaired. Repair of this sort can only be done with a shop experienced in that type of repair. Morotr are extremely had to find. The repaired crankshaft is probably the best bet for having a running machine. Tim Devries and Jack Mease also drove in the Tired iron run. They are also from Alaska and may have some help for you on this issue.
—Barrie Graham, Hus-Ski expert
Evinrude snowmobiles
I have several Evinrude snowmobiles, some run and some are parts sleds. One of them is a 72 quiet flite. it has a bendix zenith carb. It needs a rebuild because the main jet seat is shot. the only info. I can find on the net is about harley davison motorcycle carbs. are these the same as i have? if so what size would mine be? also, i have a trailblazer that has an electrial
problem that i can't seem to figure out. i pulled the flywheel and cleaned everything, but still can't get spark. i noticed that just as i let off the key that there would be a little spark. could you tell me what it could be.
—Thanks, Jack
The Harley ones are not the same as far as I know. I would suggest checking out the message board (known as the Bull Sessions) on www.VintageSleds.com as there are a number of very knowledgeable Evinrude collectors on that site. You might also find a carb in the classifieds section of that site.
OK - with the Trailblazer, it sounds like an electrical short. Have you tried staring it with the ignition (key) switch disconnected? Faulty / worn key switches are common on old sleds.
—Alex Lamore
1975 Evinrude 45
I have a 1975 Evinrude 45 with a rotary motor. I just bought it and I can't seem to get it running decent. I was wondering wut the gas to oil mixture was and what the gas and air
mixture screw should be set at? if you could give me any information that would be very nice!
—Renee Sand
An Evinrude with a 45 Rotary motor is a good find - they can be tricky to get running, but once they do get running look out! For oil mixture you should be running anywhere from 32:1 to 50:1 depending on the grade and quality of oil. It is always best to run a bit rich then too lean.
As for the settings, I am going to have to refer you over to the OMC Guru's over at www.VintageSleds.com in the Bull Sessions.
—Alex Lamore
Arctic Cat Panthers
I have a pair of early 70's Arctic cat Panthers with a hydralic clutch and torque converter, rather than the conventional belt driven. One is a parts sled and the other runs but needs a crank seal they both have electric start and are believed to be very rare. My local snowmobile shop has been open for 40 years and has never heard of or seen 1 of these. Can someone help? How rare are they and how much are they worth?
—Stanley Redell
Well, those certainly sound like rare birds - I was not aware that Arctic Cat made Hydraulic Drives (Yamaha was the most famous for that). There are only two places where you might find information on them - http://donsvintagecats.com/ and www.VintageSleds.com in the Bull Sessions.
—Alex Lamore
Fuel mix for Ski-doo
I'm looking to disconnect the the oil injection for a Ski-doo. What fuel mix ratio should i start out with?
It would be better to fix the oil injection. But if you are going to mix - start with 40:1 with a GOOD quality oil (such as Bombardier Oil or Shell Advanced). You may be able to go to 50:1, but just keep an eye on your plug colour - target for a brownish colour. Oil and spark plugs are cheaper than a motor rebuild, so don't be afraid to be a bit rich in the oil department.
—Alex Lamore
1972 Arctic Cat Panther
I just came across a 1972 arctic cat panther with the 303 wankel rotary engine, runs good and in very good shape and I wondering what it was worth?
If you find a Rotary that is running well, you have got something there. They are a good motor, but can be really cantankerous when they don't run. Without seeing it, it is likely worth in the $500 range.
—Alex Lamore
Value of old sleds
I have two older sleds i wondered what they were worth.The first is a 1974 Chapparal SS111 mint needs a piston also have original shop manual in a Chaparral binder. The other is a 1983 SRX 440 mint but has no spark any info on value or anyone interested.
—Don Taylor
With the Chapparal, there apparently was no SS 3 in 74 from what I have been told. It is probably a 1973 model. Seats for this machine are near impossible to find. The 1973's had poor suspensions also - something to consider if its going to be a rider. As for value - as a parts sled it would start at around $50. If the sled is good and the motor is junk, you would likely max out at around $300.
As for the Yamaha, I have been advised that there is no such thing as an '83 SRX. 1983 was the first year for the Vmax. It may be an 1981 SRX. If it is a 1981, value might be around $500 - $1000 they have been going for on eBay. Might go as high as $1500 if it was MINT (showroom) and running.
—Alex Lamore
Evinrude snowmobile
I have the oppertunity to purchase an Evinrude snowmobile late 60's with Wankle engine and I suspect it may be a skeeter. It's a very haevy machine and it appears to be made for towing heavy sleds. It looks like all parts are there ...... my question is where i can find manual, parts and how much is it worth if I can get it running, and where could i sell it at (web site).
—Dave Grossmann
For Manuals and Parts, you can start at eBay.com then look to sites like www.VintageSleds.com , www.ACSCC.com , www.VintageSnowmobile.info and check their message boards and classifieds. As for value, it depends on overall completeness, originality, condition (track, seat, hood, etc) and runability. A machine like this is likely in the $200 to $500 range.
—Alex Lamore
Elan
I was wondering if any of you guys knows how to read the serial number of an old Ski-Doo Elan (I suspect it's a '72 or '73). Is the production year identified by the 3rd number, such as in earlier Bombardier serial numbers? Thanks for your time!
—Philippe Gauthier
That is a good question and one that often comes up. It is not really a matter of reading the digits - that changed in 1972. If you look on the tag, it should state the Build Month and Year - ie - June 1972 - this would make it a 1973 model as all Ski-doo's are built a year ahead of the model year. If you really want to check your Ski-doo Elan serial number to find out the year and the exact model, this web site is very helpful: http://www.teshio.com/oldski-doosleds/ids.htm
—Alex Lamore
Polaris Charger
I have (I believe a 1968? )Polaris Charger 398cc in great shape. What might it be worth?
—Neil Burg
To get a true value on this Charger, we would have to know for sure the year. If it is in great shape, with all original components and nothing missing, I would think it would be in the $400 - $700 range.
—Alex Lamore
What sleds to look out for?
Hello, I am from Gillette, WY, and I have noticed a lot of 60s thru 80s snowmobile graveyards around here! I need to know what sleds to look out for. I am wondering if you can tell me a little bit about what sleds came with a Wankel Rotary engine and if there were more then just the Sachs 303? Also, I found a sled with dual down draft carbs, which was interesting, and another had an opposed twin engine made by OMC!
Thanks a lot!
—Sean Tangeman, Gillette, WY
What sleds to look out for? That is a bit of a tough question as there were well over 200 manufacturers of snowmobiles in the hay-days of snowmobiling. Wankel Rotary Engines came in a few different machines, such as OMC and there was more than just the 303. I will have to do some more digging on that for a more solid answer. Dual down-draft carbs can be found on a multitude of machines. The twin opposed is a very common engine in OMC machines. Most of them had them in the early 70s.
To learn more about the variety of machines out there, I highly suggest checking out - www.vintagesnowmobiles.50megs.com/BROCHURES.html. As for your original question, you have to decide why you are looking for old sleds. If you plan to collect, you are best to pick a brand and learn all about that one brand and the various models. If your goal is to buy and re-sell, then your best bet is to check eBay, the various vintage sled classifieds out there and sign into the numerous vintage sled forums out there and try to learn all you can. There is no real simple answer to this question due to the variety and number of machines out there. Currently the 'hot' ticket sleds are the race sleds, but you really have to know what you are looking at so you don't end up buying something that is not what it is said to be. Hope this helps. Best of luck!
—Alex Lamore
Evinrude 1968
I have an Evinrude 1968. It is in fair conditions. The primar bulb doesn't work and the reverse does not work; however, it still runs good. I was wondering what you thought it might be worth.
You didn't say what specific model or engine size, so I am going to assume it is a run-of-the mill, common model. Price wise, depending on overall completeness, originality and condition, it could be worth between $50 and $450. Try doing a search on Google or eBay to see if you can find similar sleds to yours and what prices they are going for. Also check your local newspapers for prices in your area.
—Alex Lamore
Information on Elans
Hi, do you have a manual or a source where I can view it for free? That would be awesome if there was one because I just bought an elan from my friend for 50 bucks and a semi-new engine for it. I am planning to clean the entire engine so can you help me out?
If none of this is possible, can you give me any pointers? I am definitely a first timer at snowmobile engines.
When it comes to old Elans and free information, I would highly recommend the oldski-doosleds message board at http://users.boardnation.com/~oldski-doosleds/index.php. If you wish to buy a manual, check out eBay or one of the many vintage snowmobile classified sites on line. You might also want to look for a swap meet near you.
If you are cleaning the engine, a bit of de-greaser and elbow grease go a long way. If you want to do it right, tear the whole motor apart and have the various parts media blasted. Same goes for the chassis if you are planning a full restoration.
Hope this helps. Good luck!
—Alex Lamore
1982 John Deere 440
Hi, I have acquired a 1982 John Deere 440 liquifire snowmobile with just over 800 original miles. A rancher in wyoming used it one winter hauling feed to his cattle and since then it has been stored in a shed. I just had the carbs cleaned and adjusted, it starts on the 3rd pull. What is this sled worth, I heard from one party it"s a collectible, is this true? Thanks George
Hi George, yes, this sled would be considered a collector sled to a John Deere collector. Value wise, I would have to do some digging, as I have not personally come across many liquifires. I would think in the $500 - $1000 range if it is clean and all original with no damage. As with any collectible - prices can vary and in the right spot at the right time to the right person you might get more.
—Alex Lamore
1967 Arctic Cat
I have a restored 1967 Arctic Cat 560-D snowmachine. It does not have the original engine. It has a Kohler engine. The side by side seating, the round steering wheel and the bright white and red color draws everyone's interest. I'm wondering how many were produced and I wonder how many might have ended up in Alaska. I also wonder if I held on to it for another 10 or 20 years if any one could tell me if it would be very valuable one day. I wonder what they sold for in 1967 and what it is worth today. Someone just offered me $1,400 for it. Would I be foolish to let it go? Any information you could give me would be much appreciated. Thank you!
This is one of those older sleds that have a special market. Not many sleds ever ended up in Alaska back in the early days. As far as value, it may be worth as much now as it could ever be - but with collector markets you can never tell. I would honestly think $1,400 for a restored one would be a bit of a low offer, but I have not seen the sled and can not vouch for the quality of the restoration. I would suggest dropping a line to Don at www.donsvintagecats.com as he may have or be able to point you in the right direction in terms of information and value. As far as hanging on to it versus letting it go - do you enjoy it? Do you ride / show it? Or does it just sit in the corner of the garage? If you are not getting any enjoyment from it, you are further ahead to sell it to some one who will.
—Alex Lamore
1970 BOA Ski
I have a 1970 BOA Ski Snowmobile. It doesn’t run, and it has surface rust. I was wondering how much it is worth. The motor still turns and is all parts are here. I don’t know how much it is worth. I am looking to sell it, but am unaware of what the sale price should be.
—Kristy Reed
Generally speaking, sleds that don't run are considered parts sleds and go $25 - $150 tops. That is unless it is a special model or is in exceptional physical condition. If you are looking for top dollar, you are best to clean it all up and get it running. Average common sleds in average condition run $250 - $500.
—Alex Lamore
1973 Johnson
I am looking to find the value of a 1973 Johnson Snowmobile and I am having a hard time. Is it possible for you to point me in the correct direction?
—Thank you, Cindy Edwards
Value is always tricky on old sleds as there are many factors to consider. Firs,t you have to start with the exact make and model. Johnson made several models in 1973—some are more collectible then others. Regionality—in certain areas, some sleds are more popular than others. You also have to look at over-all condition: track, suspension, chassis, motor, hood, muffler, seat, windshield, etc. You also have to look at completeness—is everything there? Some of the places you can search for value are eBay.com and the various vintage snowmobile on-line classifieds systems out there, such as vintagesleds.com and www.acscc.com. Generally speaking, if it doesn't run, you are looking at $25—$100 or more if it is in exceptional shape. Running and complete, you could be looking $400—$1,000. I know it is a range, but with more details it can be narrowed down.
Hope this helps and good luck!
Galaxy 306
The cottage next to mine was sold last year and the new owner gave me a Galaxy 306 snowmobile. Have you ever heard of a Galaxy 306 snowmobile? Where were they made? Canada or the U.S.? Is it worth anything? Thanks.
—Dennis Dyck
There are two companies that made a Galaxy that I am aware of—one is Polaris in 1980 (they also made a Gemini and an Apollo).
In 1969, there was the Galaxy Snowmobile and it came in models 186, 227 and 309. It was built by Fredrick-Willys. Here is some more information on them: www.vintagesnowmobiles.50megs.com/1969_GALAXY_BROCHURE_MAIN.html and www.vintagesnowmobiles.50megs.com/PP982.html
They were built in Farmington, Minnesota, USA. They are definitely a rarity and an odd-ball in the world of old sleds. It would definitely be worth something to the right collector (some one who specializes in odd-ball sleds). How much it's worth depends on completeness and how much a collector wants it. Many odd-ball sleds don't command high values as most people collect what they remember.
Hope this helps.
—Alex Lamore
Fuel mix
I am looking for accruate information on the fuel mix for a 1972 Ski Doo Olympique 399. I just bought it and there was no owners manual and the gentleman I bought it from, I believe, has the mix too oil rich. I used to have a 1970 Olympique single cylinder (240?) but don't remember the mix. HELP.
—Doug, Wisconsin
Back in the day, the book recommend that you run 20:1, but that was based on the oils that were produced back then. Many folks still run this thinking it is correct. Oils today are far superior, and you can run as lean as 50:1. That being said, oil and plugs are cheaper than rebuilding a motor, so I like to run about 40:1 or up to 32:1 in a motor that has not been run in a while.
Ultimately, the best guide is the spark plugs. After running for a bit, pull the plugs and if they are oily, then it's too rich. The ideal colour for the plugs, as suggested by various old Ski-doo wrenchers, is a brownish colour—this means that the fuel / oil mix is ideal. If there is oil / fuel / sludge in the bottom of your fuel tank, you are best to clean it out before putting fresh fuel mix in. Hope this helps.
—Alex Lamore
Johnson Seahorse
I have a 1970s Johnson Seahorse in good condition with 100 miles on the odometer. It has reverse, a wide track and I'm guessing 25 to 35 horsepower. I know this is not much detail, but can you ball park the worth of this? Thanks
—Bob
Hi Bob. A bit more information might help, but is sounds like you have a late 1960s Skee-Horse. Based on the few details given and if it is running, you will likely be in the $200 to $500 range. It could be higher or lower, depending on how good it is, how complete it is, original paint, decals and seat, etc.
—Alex Lamore
1971 335 Ski-doo Olympic
I have a 1971 335 Olympic that I started to restore. It is in excellent condition with most of the original paint still on the bottoms of the skis. Where can I obtain a shop manual for this model? Thanks for any help.
—
Connie Tikkala
This is a good sled to restore—most parts are readily available for this model (the hardest thing to find is a good hood). As far as shop manuals go, if you are looking for an original, the best place to find them is eBay. Next best bet is old sled swap meets and the various on-line forums/classifieds. Used book stores can sometimes be a source of manuals as well.
There are also the after-market manuals by Intertec and Clymer (Vintage Sled series). Both use OEM information, specs and data. Only draw-back is that they cover a multitude of models, so they are not as detailed as an original manual would be.
If you are looking for restoration help, I highly recommend www.teshio.com/oldski-doosleds/index.htm Be sure to check out the message board for information and parts as well. I hope this helps.
—Alex Lamore
1975 Evinrude Rotary 45 sleds
We have two Evinrude Rotary 45 snowmobiles—1975s—and we were wondering how much they are worth. they are both in excellent condition.
Without seeing them, I would say it depends on how well they run, how complete and original they are (are they show room condition?), I have seen prices range from $500 to $1,200 on these. In the right spot at the right time to the right person, they could bring more.
—Alex Lamore
1971 TNT 340 twin
I'm trying to tell my brother in Alaska which screw is the high speed pin on the carb. I don't know. Can you be of assistance. It's a 1971 TNT 340 twin.Thank you,
—Rob
The High Speed Jet is Marked H and the Low Speed is marked L. If you look closely, you can see them on the carb. If the carb is dirty on the outside, then just brush it off with a small wire brush. This page should help: http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Falls/5744/carbs/carb.html
OMC Snow Cruiser
We are fixing up an old OMC Snow Cruiser and are wondering what year this thing is? This sled has one head light. It has reverse and a flip up seat for storage. It looks like it has a decompression valve on the cylinder closest to the seat. It has two cylinders that are 180 apart. The drive clutch has a button in the middle of it (We don’t know what this is for. Maybe to disengage). The gas tank is missing and it has boogie suspension. We need to know if anyone has a wiring diagram and maybe some initial carb settings. Anything about this machine would be greatly appreciated. The model number is C0211 and serial number is c51383.
It sounds like a '67 to '69 OMC. The button on the clutch is a neutral switch—pull out to disengage clutch, push in to engage (not the safest system in the world). A wiring diagram and carb settings could probably be found on http://acscc.com/forum/index.php. I am sure someone there will have the information.
—Alex Lamore
1975 Ski Roule Sonar 300
I'm looking for a track for a 1975 Ski Roule Sonar 300 or another make and model that may have the same size. Also, I would like to know the size of track that fits this sled.
Thanks for your time.
—Ernie
That is a good question. The best place I can point you to for an accurate answer on Skiroule snowmobiles is http://rtxdoug.com/ The site owner will likely be able to tell you where to find a track, what track should fit and he might even have a track for your machine.
Hope this helps!
—Alex Lamore
1970 Johnson 437 Skeehorse
I have a 1970 Johnson 437 Skeehorse with an engine problem. The normal tune up stuff has been done, but I still cannot get it to accelerate without losing spark. Any ideas?
—Curtis Wood
It could be a variety of things, (are you sure it is losing spark?) but I would suggest starting with New spark plugs, then new spark plug wires. If not, it could be the CDI or 'Brain Box' - they are known for going bad - when they work, they work great, but when they don't, it can drive a person crazy! You might have to replace the box - this will likely resolve the spark issue.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobileinfo.com
1973 Moto Ski Capri
Do you have any information on where I can buy or look to buy a replacement hood? And what would a decent buying price be? (minus shipping) I found one for $200.oo but the guy will not ship it and it is brand new, never installed, no decals and from the factory in Canada 30 years ago.
—Dennis Youland
Good hoods can be tricky to find - especially the polycarbonate plastic ones from the 1970's. eBay is hit and miss, but shipping can get expensive so best to find a sled wrecker near you to see what they have. I would try a post on any of the vintage snowmobile web sites that have classifieds or forums. Swap meets are also great places to find vintage sled parts. Try http://www.teshio.com/vsn/events.htm, www.nhsnowmobilemuseum.com/events.php and www.vintagesleds.com/events/ to find an event near you. Check back frequently as the sites are constantly being updated. If I knew what area you were in, I could point you to a source near you. Most used vintage sled hoods run from $40 to $100 for good ones and reproduction hoods, if you can get one for your model, run $300 to $500 for most vintage stuff. Most guys won't ship hoods because of the cost and the high risk of them getting damaged in shipping. Always best to pickup a hood in person if you can. Good luck!
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobileinfo.com
1989 Arctic Cat
Can you give me the value of an 1989 Arctic Cat Snowmobile with 3184 miles?
—Chris Quigley
This is hard to say with the details you have given. Mileage is not really an indication of overall condition. Also, you don't mention the model and size of engine. I have seen a 1989 El Tigre EXT for sale for $550 and 1989 JAG AFS 440's going for $800 to $1,200. Some 650 liquids are reportedly going for around $2200. Hope this helps.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1975 Elan 300 SS
I have a 1975 Elan 300 SS. I am looking for replacement bushings for my secondary clutch. Ski-doo doesn’t seem to have them anymore so was wondering if there is any other place you could suggest that I try.
—Leonard Kozak.
You should be able to get them through KIMPEX.com. If not, I would suggest trying the forum at http://users.boardnation.com/~oldski-doosleds/index.php. Someone there might have what you need and/or tell you if it is worth the bother to make them yourself. Good luck!
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1976 John Deere 300
I have a 1976 John Deere 300 and it has a problem. It will start but will only run for a few seconds. It is not receiving any gas. I replaced all the gas lines and cleaned the carburetor. Is there anything that I can do to try to get this snowmobile running again?
—Phil
Is the machine drawing any fuel up into the lines? If not, you might want to check the fuel pump as it may need to be rebuilt and you might also want to check the pickup lines in the tank—they may be plugged or may have become disconnected from the pickup connector on the outside of the tank. Hope this helps!
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1980 Moto-Ski
I have a 1980 Moto-Ski 464L/C Electro with 1300 miles. Do you know where to find the rated horsepower? Also, I have a 1984 Rotax 462 L/c. What is the horsepower on this?
—Tommy
The 1980 Moto-Ski 464 L/C is the same sled as the Ski-doo Everest and is rated at around 57 HP. The 1984 Rotax 462 is rated at around 54 HP. Hope this helps.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1987 Arctic Cat El Tigre
My 1987 Arctic Cat El Tigre was running fine then it just quit so I changed the plugs and wires and still nothing? It starts fine and idles fine but when I apply the throttle it goes but not all the time? When I jack it up and push in the throttle it runs great all the horse power and cylinders are running great!
—Dave
Sounds like it could be weak spark caused by a bad coil or CDI - since it is not running well under load. The worst case scenario could be a motor seal. I would suggest getting your CDI tested at your local dealership.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
Kristi snowcats
I'm doing some research on old Kristi snowcats and also on their original design before they made snowcats, which was a snowplane.
Do you have any information on propeller driven snowplanes I could use in a web article. And more specifically, do you have any information on the old Kristi company?
—Bob Skurka
For snowplane information, you really need to talk to the snowplane experts—it is really an area all its own. We did start a section for them on the ACSCC site forum and there is one gallery at http://acscc.com/gallery. But they have a section on Yahoo Groups as well called Vintage-Airsled.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1974 Moto-Ski 440
We have just purchased a 1974 Moto-Ski 440 and am wondering where I might find a repair manual for it. One came with it, but it was wet and stuck together, and I am not able to salvage it.
—Curtis Crabb
There are a few options: a) Try eBay b) Try to find a vintage swap meet in your area c) You can get generic manuals that cover many years and models, such as the CLYMER Vintage Snowmobile Service Repair Manual - Volumes 1 & 2 (you will only need one of the volumes). d) You can get the Intertec Snowmobile Repair Manual e) You can try some of the vintage snowmobile classifieds—there are lots out there, such as www.ACSCC.com, www.VintageSleds.com, www.VintageSnowmobile.info and www.snoriderswest.com. Good luck with your search.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1972 TNT Silver Bullet 440
I live in Molunkus, Maine. I recently purchased a 1972 mint condition TNT Silver Bullet 440, however, it came without a manual. Could you tell me the fuel/oil mix ratio. I tried 40-1 and it seems to be fouling the plugs.
If it is a Silver Bullet, it is a 1973 model (built in 72). The fuel mix ratio, with today's modern oil, is 50:1. Just check your plugs every once and a while to be sure that it is burning right (plugs should be a brownish colour).
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1981 Ultra Sonic Moto-Ski
I have a 81 ultra sonic moto-ski 440L/C and when she gets warmed up it starts to lose power. It will idle no problem and then take off again but lose power. As well, it's a rotax if you already didn't know .
Power loss problems like this can be a few things—either the carb, coils or seals. From what you are describing, it sounds more like the crank seals are gone in the motor. Not expensive to fix if you can do the work yourself. But before doing all that work, double check your fuel system.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1978 Ski-doo Blizzard
I have a 1979 Ski-doo Blizzard 9500 and I'm not sure if the oil injection is working. Is there a way to check it or should I just mix the fuel in the tank and what ratio?
As far as I know, '79 Blizzards didn't have oil injection at all. Ski-doo Blizzard's didn't have oil injection until 1981 (some of the late 1980 models got it). With regards to the oil injection system, the common failures are plugged oil lines, leaking lines or connection, worn pump drive and/or worn out pump. The best thing is to check the whole system over. There is no really easy way to do this. If you want to go to mix fuel 50:1 is recommended but if you want richer oil mix, go 40:1—but always use a Quality Name Brand Oil.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1973 340 Ski-doo TNT
I have a 1973 340 Ski Doo TNT F/A that I'm in the process of restoring. I've had it since 1977 and would like to restore it back to as close to original as possible but I have a question regarding the seat and fuel tank cover. The seat is black along the sides, white through the middle (approx. 10 to 12 inches) with orange piping. The trunk/tool box is also orange to match the piping. It also had a fuel tank cover to match. The tank cover is long gone but the design was the same as the seat and was held on by snaps along the tunnel. The seat isn't horrible but needs to be replaced/recovered. I've been all over the Internet and the pictures I've seen show the seat as all black, none with the color scheme I've described, and none show a tank cover like mine. I was beginning to think the seat was custom made, or recovered before I bought it but why would someone recover the seat and make a gas tank cover to match on a sled that was only four-years-old when I bought it? Any insight you can provide would be appreciated.
Thanks, Chris
3511 decodes it as a 1973 TNT 346 FA. From what I was able to find out the trunk and grab bar are correct, but the seat cover is a custom job—not original. Likely was done as a customization to the sled and/or perhaps the original seat had a mishap. Both the seat cover and tank cover were a custom cover job. It is going to have to be re-done.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info.
1980 Polaris Galaxy 44
I have a 1980 Polaris Galaxy 440 and it is back-firing. I have replaced the points, condensers, spark plugs, fuel line and fuel filter. Do you know if it is the timing or the carbs need cleaning. Also, the machine won't rev up.
Sounds like it could be a combination problem. First of all, it definitely sounds like the timing may be off. Second, if the sled has been sitting for some time a routine carb clean would be recommended along with cleaning the gas tank and installing new fuel lines. Also it wouldn't be a bad idea to check the crank seals to make sure they are not leaking.
—Jeff Haugen of www.cannonclassicsleds.com.
Serial number
I have an early '70s Harley sled. I would like to find out how to read the serial number, or where I could find out. If you can help me out that would be great, and if you could help find where to find out about part numbers.
Thanks, Chris
Y 398 first two digits 1B for Y 440 9C next five digits 10000 and up. Second last digit H for Harley Davidson Last digit 0 for 1970, 1 for 1971 etc.
—Snarlie of the Antique & Classic Snowmobile Club of Canada
1968 Johnson Skee-Horse Lite Trac
I own about 150 Johnson and Evinrude snowmobiles. But the other day I was reading an article and it mentioned a 1968 Johnson Skee-Horse Lite Trac. I have never heard of this. I have heard of a Johnson Skee-Horse Wide Trac. Could the Lite Trac be a misprint? Or did they make such a model? Also, do you know if O.M.C ever made any toy models of their snowmobiles? Any information will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time, Dan.
In 1968, Johnson did make a Lite Trac 15. The Lite Trac was a 15" wide track and there was also an orange track option. The orange coloured track is a fairly rare option. The Lite Trac also had dual exhaust out the back exiting under the tunnel right above the track on both sides right and left. I am not aware of any toy models. At least I have never seen any Johnson toy models.
—Jeff Haugen of www.cannonclassicsleds.com.
Polaris TC 175
I have a 1974 or 1975 Polaris TC 175. Did polaris make many of these? Mine is in really good shape except the person I got it from painted it green. What do you think its worth? The speedometer says 512 miles. Any information is appreciated!
Thanks,
Tim Johnson, Somerville, Maine
Tim, I don't have the exact production numbers available. I have not seen many of these around so that would lead me to believe the production numbers were fairly low. Value of the sled will be greatly affected by it being repainted and being repainted the wrong colour. However if the snowmobile is solid, straight and complete someone that is looking for one to restore maybe won't mind it being the wrong colour. In my book a snowmobile that is in good original condition is worth more then one that has been tampered with. Pictures always do help to determine value. Without seeing pictures it is probably worth somewhere in the $300 to $500 US range. By the way, many people are curious what the TC stands for. TC stands for Town & Country.
—Jeff Haugen of Cannon Classic Sleds, www.cannonclassicsleds.com
1972 Ski Doo Elan 250
I'm restoring a 1972 Ski Doo Elan 250 Single and need a muffler. I see this model was made from 1971 until 1996 which is pretty amazing. I'm having trouble finding a muffler for it. Can I use any year Elan single muffler on it? Thanks, Mark.
Mark, here are a few things you can do. Place an ad in the classifieds section of one of the vintage snowmobile sites such as New Hampshire Snowmobile Museum classifieds or Irondogs Snowmobile Swap Meet or http://users.boardnation.com/~oldski-doosleds/index.php. Here are a couple of other sources for Ski Doo parts. http://www.antiquesnowmobile.com/ or http://www.spauldingvintagesnowmobile.com/index.cfm
—Jeff Haugen of Cannon Classic Sleds, www.cannonclassicsleds.com
1966 Arctic Cat
Could you give me an idea on the value of this 1966 Arctic Cat?
Hard to say without seeing it all and knowing the full condition of it (does it run, how is the track, skis, seat, etc), but from what I was able to find out, it is likely worth in the $800 to $1,500.00 US range, but I am no expert on old cats. It could be worth more to the right buyer. I would suggest the best place to sell something like this would be eBay. I was told that Arctic Cat made 1590 sleds in 1966 of that only 89 were model 170. Hope this helps.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
Paint codes
I'm looking for paint codes for a 1980 Moto-Ski Supersonic Blue and Orange and a 1980 Ski-Doo Blizzard 9500.
Thanks, Craig
Blue: Midnight Blue
BASF /RM code is : RM 85003
PPG Code is : DCC 17876
Orange: new Moto-Ski Orange
BASF RM Code is : 569299
PPG code is : 69920
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1970s Elans
I have a couple of late 70s model Elan snowmobiles. One is a 250 and one is a 300. I was wondering if you can get a Mikuni carb to fit on these since the Tillotson carbs on these machines are subject to vapour lock when the weather is warm.
Thanks, Kent
Yes, you can interchange a Mikuni carb on to these motors. In 1980, Ski-Doo put a Mikuni VM 28 Carb on the 250 cc Elan. I believe that this goes for all Elans up to 1996. You will have to put on a fuel pump as well. For technical help on how to upgrade an Elan to a Mikuni, check out http://users.boardnation.com/~oldski-doosleds/index.php?board=12. There are several guys on the board who have put Mikuni's on old Elans.Good luck!
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1970 Ski-Doo gas tank
Where can I find a gas tank for a 1970 Ski-Doo?
Kind regards, Susan Linkous
If it is a 1970 with a 15 inch track, the tanks were built into the chassis. Sounds like it might be a 71 with a plastic tank. 1971 to '73 Olympics / TNT's (15 inch track models with steel chassis) have the same tank. There are lots of good used ones out there (occasionally New Old Stock (NOS) ones show up on the market). I would try the Oldskidoosleds message board—http://users.boardnation.com/~oldski-doosleds/index.php. You can also look for sled wreckers in your area or try ebay.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1974 Polaris Electra
Hi, we have a 1974 Polaris electra 340 and were wondering what fuel mix ratio we should use in this machine as well as the chain case oil we should use.
Thank you,
Dave and Connie
The book calls for 32:1 but with the new oils they can run 40:1 with no problems. And chain case oil is 80/90. I hope this helps out.
—Shawn and Susan Horner (Polaris Collectors) of www.AllistonVintageSledShow.com
1970 TNT 399
Trying to determine the model number of a 1970 TNT 399 engine. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Steve Zale, Eagle WIS
If it is in fact a 1970 TNT 399 engine, it will be model number 400 with a Tillotson HD 21A carburetor.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1970 Harley Snowmobile
Can you please tell me what a 1970 Harley Snowmachine is worth? It needs work and I thought I would restore it, but I would like to know before I buy it.
George Lewis
From what I know of Harley Snowmobiles (which were built by AMF) and what I have seen, unrestored asking prices tend to run in the $500 to $1,200 range. Condition is a major consideration with any old sled—does it need chassis work? Does it need a new track? Does it run? How is the seat? How easily can the parts be found? These are just some of the considerations in determining value. As a final thought, when it comes to buying old sleds, let your heart be your guide and your pocketbook be your judge.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1973 Skidoo Elan
I have a almost mint condition 1973 Skidoo Elan 250. The cowling has been repainted black/yellow and pinstripped. It has less that 500 miles on it. No tears, rips or cracks anywhere. I also have the original paperwork, manual and shop manual. What do you think its worth?
Pete
Okay, with a sled like this, my first thought is if it is so nice, why was the hood re-painted? (I ask because this may work against you in trying to sell it). Also, how is it known to have less than 500 miles? Most Elans were not equipped with a speedometer. That being said and to answer your question, most good Elans top out at around $700 (range being $500 to $1,000) although there are exceptions such as super-clean, mint, original ones and some of the rare models (ie: Elan Blizzard). As an example, there was a nice 1974 Elan at a swap meet this past weekend, complete with original manual and cover and it sold for $500. I hope this helps answer your question.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1986 Skidoo Tundra
I live in Ontario and I'm having a hard time finding a Parts & Repair Manual for my 1986 Skidoo Tundra. If there's some out there, where can I get one?
Thanks!
Ivan Petit
This isn't too hard to find; go to your local Canadian Tire and go to the snowmobile / ATV parts section (or check around the parts department desk) and pick up a copy of the CLYMER Ski-Doo Snowmobile Shop Manual—it covers 1985 to 1989. If you want an actual Ski-doo factory manual the best bet is eBay or one try of the many Sled Swap meets in Ontario, some are listed here: http://www.acscc.com/events.php
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1969 Johnson Challenger
Hi, I have a 1969 Johnson challenger that looks exactly like the one on the website except it has 297 instead of 300 and is a 297 JLO/Rockwell engine. How many of and why were these sleds made? Someone told me they were to be racers. The gas tank is only 4.4 galons and it is held in by rubber bungees and has a quick disconnect on the fuel line. This person said that was so the gas tanks could be switched quickly instead of taking the time to fill it.
Thanks, JR
Glen J: According to my 1968/69 Blue Book, Johnson made four different Challengers for 1969. All had JLO engines. The C-227 was 227cc and 12hp retailed for $725 US. The C-297 was 297cc and 17hp retailed for $885 US. The C-300 was 300cc and 19hp retailed for $910 US. The C-380 was 372cc & 23hp, retailed for $1075. Interesting that Evinrude only offered two models, the Bob Cat 3090 had a 297cc JLO rated at 19.5hp and retailed for $910 US, and the Bob Cat 3890 had the 372cc JLO rated at 23.5hp and retailed for $1075 US.
Ross: I have never heard of any OMC product with a truly removable gas tank, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Polaris used them in the mid-60's and Polaris-made sleds like Marshall Wells, Larson and Eaton's Viking used them until 1969. The tanks even had carrying handles so you could take them with you to get gas and mix the oil. There is no reason that someone couldn't have added it later perhaps, because it wasn't a bad idea.
I "think" they were made in 1969 and 1970, but perhaps only '69. Unlike the first OMC Snow Cruiser single, the Challengers were built on the regular OMC-made 15-inch chassis that their bigger twins came on. It was square at the front, whereas the first Snow Cruiser single was on a brand new lighter chassis with a rounded front. The first Snow Cruiser single, affectionately known as "The Snoopy", Model 189, used Canadian made Kohler singles as did subsequent years. For the American market, the company chose JLO's. When the sleds for the U.S. market changed to the newer lighter chassis, they were renamed the Johnson Rampage to go with the Evinrude Bobcat.
The Snoopy DID have a plastic tank that was held in with flat plastic webbing packing straps. Most people replaced THOSE with bungie cords. Did the Challenger in question have a plastic tank at the front?
The orange and black colour of the Challengers was the same as a couple of outboard motors that OMC made at the same time. The outboards were slightly higher performance (The Johnson "Stinger 70", for instance) and that may be why someone would think that the Challengers were for racing. They were regular consumer sleds, however and the the 297 is regular JLO single.
I actually own a 69 Johnson Challenger 297, given to me by a friend from Michigan, and the gas tank is built into the front of the chassis, the same way most of the old Skid-doos prior to 1971 were built. "
Phil M: My orange and black Snow-Cruiser/Challenger from the USA has the 399 Kohler in it and it does have the removable steel tank. The steel tank has a carrying handle and it was held in place with OEM bungie straps. The gas tank is at the very front, right between those very cool yet menacing twin headlights....mine has one headlight removed to assist in cooling that hi-performance racing clutch. There is an OMC quick connect/disconnect for the fuel tank and fuel line, just like an older outboard fuel tank. You can disconnect the tank, take it way to fill it up (AV gas), then clamp it back in place and you're off into the woods. I have a gas tank in front, center mounted 399 Kohler twin, single Tillotson "downdraft" carb, and primer "bulb" on dash."
—Members of the Antique & Classic Snowmobile Club of Canada (www.ACSCC.com)
Johnson snowmobiles
Hi, my father has three Johnson snowmobiles (one of which was my grandfathers): a '74 Johnson 400, '74 Johnson 440 and a '76 Johnson 400SR. All are in what I consider to be excellent shape…he has always kept things in great shape from his cars and trucks to ATVs and these sleds. He is now in his 70s and we kids are telling him he should sell the snowmobiles and buy himself a new one. He wants to give them to us, but we are not as mechanically inclined and frankly the newer sleds are just so much easier, faster and more comfortable to ride. A local vintage dealer would love to buy them, every time he is in the area he stops by my fathers place to see if he wants to sell them. He's been trying to buy them for many years but is now asking my father to come up with a price. My father is not sure how much they are worth and was wondering if $2,000 is a good price or not.
From discussion with other collectors, values range from $200 to $500 each. Many of the mid- to late-seventies sleds are not yet considered 'true' collectors items.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1970 Snow Cruiser
Hi! I Have a question on an old 1970 Snow Cruiser sled. I was just wondering about the carb setting. I just put a kit in it and needed to know about the air and gas adjustment. It has a one Cylinder Koler Engine in it.
Thanks,
Travis Bell
Palgrave, ON
Most early single cylinders with Tillotsons used 7/8 to one turn for low speed and approximately 1 1/4 for high speed. I don't have the 1970 Snow Cruiser owners manual but here are the 1971 owners manual spec's for the single Kohler used on the model 201 which is basically the same as the 1970 200 model. Low speed 7/8 to one turn, high speed 1 1/2 initial, 1 3/8 minimum. As these are usually okay to get the thing running, final adjustment should be done with a warmed up engine running flat out with one hand on the throttle and one on the carb adjustment and hoping you don't fall off. Lean the high speed (turn in) till she goes like stink and then back it off about a 1/8 so as not to lean it out too much causing a major burndown. Of course you can do it on a stand also which is not quite as good but it too can be a little dangerous. Anyway, that's how we used to do it. We were running Sachs and Rotax but Kohler or any other brand with a Tilly should respond the same.
—Member of the Antique & Classic Snowmobile Club of Canada (www.ACSCC.com)
Arctic Cat Quad Trac Snow Groomer
I'm hoping someone can help me with any information on a 1973 or 1974 Arctic Cat Quad Trac Snow Groomer. We purchased it a few months ago and can't seem to find any information on it. We would like to get it going by winter. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You For Your Time!
Angie
Arctic Cat made what was in essence a personal trail groomer called the Arctic Quadtrac. It was introduced in the fall of 1977. It featured an articulated chassis and was powered by a 500cc Suzuki engine and was fitted with a 60" grooming attachment.
——Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
Fox Trac
I have acquired an old Fox Trac snowmobile through my divorce. Would you have any idea how much it costs to replace or make a gas tank for it. It is a 1960s model. Also, do you know where I could find a shield for it.
Rozanne Bergman
Fox Trac parts, that is a good question, they are a bit unique and not easy to find parts for. Your BEST spots to start looking for parts are www.VSCA.com and www.VintageSleds.com. You could also try eBay and www.ACSCC.com.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
Diablo Rouge
I have a Diablo Rouge snowmobile that belonged to my late father. It is stored in a garage, but has not been used for many years. It was purchased in the mid to late 60s. Do you know what it would be worth or someone who would be interested in purchasing it? I am in the greater Toronto area.
Thank you, Tim Wilson
The value would depend on condition and completeness. Being in the Toronto area, I would suggest looking www.ACSCC.com and posting there (it is free). Many of the users are in Ontario, so likely some one close who could take a look at it.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1970 Polaris Voyager
Hi, do you happen to have an owners manual or a wiring schematic for a 1970 Polaris Voyager Snowmobile?
Thanks,
Tom Carter
This could be hard to find. I would recommend checking out the Clymer Pro Snowmobile 1962-1986 Service Manual as it does cover Polaris 1965-1986. You might also want to check out www.Polarisman.com
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1974 VIP Panther
Hi Guys,
I was asking around about older sleds in my area and a farmer in my town has a 1974 VIP Panther that is all original but doesn't run. He says it has no spark and has been covered in his machine shed for at least 10 years. He told me I can come and pick it up for $100 dollars. My question is what is something like that worth? If it's in decent shape and only needs a coil or something along those lines, is it worth me getting into a restoration project on it? I know it's not much info since I haven't yet seen the sled but just want to have an idea about the value before I go over there and uncover it. Also am I able to find parts for something like this?
Thank-You,
Scott Dahlk
This sled is likely okay at $100 if it is decent and only needs a new coil ($20) to run again. Value? If it can be made to run it would be worth $200 to $500 (keep in mind this is without seeing it and really knowing the condition). For more information on old Arctic Cats, try Don at www.donsvintagecats.com.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
1986 Ski-Doo Tundra
I was wondering if you could provide me with an approximate value of a 1986 Ski-Doo Tundra? I have two—both are in fair shape and both are the non-extended version. Any assistance you can provide would be most appreciated.
Jim Wade
If they are in fair shape (good tracks, decent seats, minimal to no damage), complete and ready to go, $500 to $800 would be the average range for these types of sleds. Without actually seeing them, it is hard to say exactly—but this should get them in the ball park.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
Polaris Cutter
I have what I think is a Polaris Cutter sled but no clue on the year. All it has on it is Sno Crusier and it has blue bottom and a white top. It also has a windshield, leaf springs, and large, fat aluminum skis. Any help?
With out seeing a picture of it or having information from the manufacturer or the serial tag, it is hard to tell what make it is. Several manufacturers made tow-behind cutter sleds in a variety of colours, including two-tone colours such as blue and white. That all being said, the fact that it says "Sno Cruiser" on it tends to make me think that this cutter is for an OMC / Evinrude snowmobile as OMC manufactured the Sno Cruiser line of snowmobiles and blue and white were their colours of choice. Cutters were very popular from the late 60's to the early 1970's. I would think that would be the vintage of it.
See if it looks like any of the ones on this page:
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
Snowmobile dynamometer
I have a vintage drive on snowmobile dyno made by Service Tools Division of Owatonna Tool Company out of Minnesota. It still works and has the manual, ramps, spray bars etc.
Is there a market for this kind of equipment?
I don't know much about the sled dynos, but checked with the club guys, and here are the responses:
Saw one or one similar in action once upon a time. Impressive but not much good in today's market. They are not calibrated close tight enough to make the kind of clutch and carb changes are required to compete in today's racing environment."
"I don't know if it is the same as one in my neck of the woods, but the one up here is for sale and you drive onto it.. it looks like a snowmobile track that turns as you sit there and there is some formulas to work out to give you horse power and setting up the machine.. only good for about 50 to 60 horsepower."
Hope this helps out some what.
—Alex Lamore of www.vintagesnowmobile.info
Snowbug
I have a 1963 or 1964 Snowbug snowmobile. It was used very little and then given to my husband years ago when an old friend wanted it out of his garage. The only problem is the need for a new headlight bulb. It has been in my garage for 15 years and my husband has since passed on.
Someone wants to buy it and I have no idea what to charge. I read recently that few more than 100 were made. Is that true? Can you tell me the current value?
I live in Maine.
Thank you,
Carolyn T. Ballantyne
They were built in Sudbury, Ontario, Canada.
However, there is a problem with the production numbers—the most accurate information seems to be contained on this pdf page with a brief bio of Howard Schraeder, the inventor of the snowbug.
There was actually between 300 and 700 produced PER YEAR from 1967—1977. So, they are not quite as rare as some people think. Definitely more that 100 built. Note that the early ones were hand built, starting in 1958. The Snowbug is one of those odd sleds that people have ingrained in their brain as being rarer than it is. Unfortunately, due to the fact it is an odd snowmobile, it does not have as high acollector value as one of the main stream brands.
Value wise—I passed up a couple at auction last summer, with both going for under $500 each. If you are considering selling it, I would advise that you put an ad on the New Hampshire Snowmobile Museum Association Web Site Classifieds and either go with a firm price they think is fair OR put it up subject to Best Offer.
—Alex Lamore of vintagesnowmobile.info
8/06
1971 Arctic Cat Lynx
I have a 1971 Arctic Cat Lynx with a Kohler four-stroke in it and I was wondering what it's value might be. The sled is in great condition, everything is original, it starts on one pull and I know that there were only 810 made and that not many are left around today.Iappreciate any help. Thanks.
The 1971 Lynx was a very solidly built sled and a good runner, so there are a few of them still around from what I have been told. Value wise—I saw one posted for $875 US on one web site, so I would say that is likely a fair price for the sled. However,to the right person it could be worth more.Price is one of those things in the hobby that does not seem to have "normalcy" to it yet, and this could be contributed tothe fact that the hobby is in a mass growth spurt and prices are up and down as demand increases andmore sleds come out of the sheds and what not. Addtothat the number of manufacturers of sleds, and it gets complicated in a hurry. I think we will see some normalcy and "average" prices start to evolve over the next couple of years as things level out and true understanding comes out about how rare certain sleds are and how desirable they are.
—Alex Lamore of vintagesnowmobile.info
8/06
Polaris Voyager
Hi, we have an old Polaris Voyager Snowmobile Model 448805, SN 500189, Engine is EC50P. Can you tell me what year this machine is?
Thanks so much, Tom Carter
The Voyager is a neat sled about the same size as a Ski-doo Alpine. Unlike the Alpine the Voyager has two skis and one track that is 30 inches wide—the Alpine was a single ski with 2-15 inch tracks. Here is a photo of one.
According to my Intertec book—won't vouch for its accuracy—1970 and 1971 were the only years the Voyager used the Polaris EC50Pmotor"
In 1970, the Voyager ad lists the specs, and the code is 448805. there is also a listing in 1971 for the same machine with the same displacement engine.
—Alex Lamore of vintagesnowmobile.info
8/06
Ski-Doo exhaust manifold
Could you tell me if an exhaust manifold (Y pipe) off a '74 Ski Doo 400 TNT F/A will fit a '75 340 TNT F/A?
As far as I know it should be the same Y-pipe. I checked the parts list for those two models and the Y-pipe is the same part number 420 873 417, so yes it will fit. For more on TNT parts, check out www.geocities.com.
—Alex Lamore of vintagesnowmobile.info
6/06
1974 Sno-Jet Sabre Jet 440
Hello, my name is Dan. I recently purchased a 1974 Sno-Jet Sabre Jet 440. It is all original. I guess my question is how do I find out info on it. What is it worth? History? How many were made? What # it is,ect. Any advice you can give me is good advice since I am new at this.—Thanks, Dan VanderWal.
Sno-Jets are great little sleds and are known as good-looking, reliable machines. Go to www.snojet.com for the history of Sno-Jet, research and development, parts and advertising, how to identify your sled, tips on how to restore it and some great photos of these beauties.
—Kirsten Armleder, SnoRidersWest.com
6/06
1965 Polaris Voyager
My husband and I recently purchased a 1965 Polaris Voyager and are looking for some parts to restore it. Do you know where we might possibly find a salsbury clutch 1100 or a transmission for it.Thank-you. —Wendy Carter
You may be able to find parts at Snowmobile Heaven in Rimbley, Alberta. Their phone number is 403-843-3654. They have over 7,000 different sleds from every make and model. They can also ship parts anywhere in Canada, U.S. and even Europe. Also check out Full Throttle Parts & Service, located in Cranbrook, B.C. They have a huge selection of old sleds and can ship parts anywhere in North America. Their phone number is 250-426-3798 and e-Mail address is chris_nesa@shaw.ca.
—Kirsten Armleder, SnoRidersWest.com
3/06
1971 Snow Coupe
Hi, I have a 1971 Snow Coupe that was manufactured by Vivitar in Michigan. I understand that only four units came to Alberta through Carter Chev Olds in 1971. Some restoration work has been done, including new 440 engine, bogies, plexiglass and some bodywork. I am looking to sell and want to know what fair market value would be and if you have any interested buyers. Thanks for your help. —Bob Desmeules (403) 686-3209
The Snow Coupe is a very odd sled. I don't know what you would put for a value on it, make something up and see if someone will pay it.
—Don Coleman of www.donsvintagesleds.com
3/06
Harley Davidson Cutter
I have an early 1970's Harley Davidson Cutter (sled) that I would like to know that value on. Could you please help me? —Kerrie
Real nice cutters go for around $300. It doesn't matter whose name is on it. Tobe honest, I have never seen a Harley Cutter so you might just find an excited buyer.
—Don Coleman of www.donsvintagesnowmobiles.com
3/06
1973 Elan
Hello, I have a '73 250e Elan. It's in nice shape, but there is a crack in the hood, which, in this year, is made of nylon. Plastics guys say they can do nothing about the crack, any suggestions? Thanks.
I think your hood is polycarbonate, not nylon. If you want it to look new, there's not much chance but if you just want to keep it from falling apart, go inside and melt the crack together with an electric soldering iron.
—Don Coleman of www.donsvintagesnowmobiles.com
3/06
1980 Moto Ski Mirage 1
I am the owner of an 1980 Moto Ski Mirage 1 with a rotax 277cc engine. I am the second owner of the snowmobile and has very low mileage. I have recently purchase a new piston, seals, repainted the body, redone the seat and fixed up a few scratches here and there. The engine runs excellent and the body is in
very good shape too. Could you tell me what the expected price of this machine would be? Thanks.
This is a very nice little sled, but it is not really a vintage sled as such. People are still buying them used for their main sled or for the kids to ride. In my area, if I had a real nice Mirage 1, it would bring in $600 to $800 dollars. For interest sake, the hood alone—if it is in good condition—is worth $200.
— Don Coleman of www.donsvintagesnowmobiles.com
3/06
1970 Johnson
I recently found a 1970 Johnson with the wankel rotary motor in it and was told it was a rare find and only a few were made. I was just wondering what something like this would be worth. —Aaron
There were and still are a lot of them around, but parts are impossible to find. If you need a spark plug the odds are, your sled will be out of service. Every vintage guy I know of is trying to locate spark plugs, and to the best of my knowledge no one in the industry makes them anymore. As a matter of fact, if someone knows where to get them I would like to know. As far as value, put your price on it and you will find out soon enough if there is someone who wants it. In my area, it would have very little value but every area is different.
—Don Coleman of www.donsvintagesnowmobiles.com
1/06
Polaris
I purchased an old Polaris and was wondering if anyone knows what year and model it might be? The tag on it is 63-284 LA60. It has a kohler engine on the back. Any information would be great! Is this a desirable vintage? Thank you very much. —Alfred Bowden
I don't know what year they are, but I know the sled that you are talking about. My Polaris information only goes to 1965 and yours is older than that. I think they first came out about 1959. Ask what ever you want for it and you will probably get it. Check out Davids Vintage Snowmobile website, you might find some information there.
—Don Coleman of www.donsvintagesnowmobiles.com
1/06
1972 Golden Ghost
Hi, my mother has a 1972 Golden Ghost snowmobile with a matching sleigh. It's in pretty good condition. The body serial numbers match the motor serial numbers which are 018784. Everything works on it and it runs great. Does anybody know how much these two are worth. I would greatly appreciate any information on this. —Linda
The Golden Ghost is a fine old sled, but in my area, it is almost impossible to sell. I sold an Evinrude Quiet Flite two years ago. It was in very nice shape and I got $400 for it with a new battery in it, which cost almost $100. Quiet Flite and Golden Ghost is the same sled, but one is a Johnson and one is an Evinrude. A Golden Ghost with a matching cutter is a whole different thing though, someone might pay good money. I saw a Snow Cruiser with a matching cutter go for $800 or $900 on eBay and I can't even give a Snow Cruiser away in my area. Having said that, I have a few Cruisers in my collection because I respect all the vintage sleds.
—Don Coleman of www.donsvintagesnowmobiles.com
1/06
1969 Eskimo 290M
We are the owners of a 1969 Eskimo 290M snowmobile. It is in very good mechanical shape. The body is also in excellent shape. Would you be able to let us know what the value of it may be?—Dale Olson
The Eskimo is rare, but you need to find someone who wants it. I know that if I had it in my collection and it is in nice shape, I would want $1,000 plus or I wouldn't part with it.
—Don Coleman of www.donsvintagesnowmobiles.com
1/06
1973 Harley Davidson 440
I was wondering if you could tell the value of a 1973 Harley Davidson 440 snowmobile?
Sometimes you can find someone who thinks they are worth something because of the Harley name, but the truth is, they are just an AMF snowmobile—same as a Ski Daddler. I had one here and it took about three years to sell it and it went for $400. It was in pretty good condition too.
—Don Coleman of www.donsvintagesnowmobiles.com
1/06
1971 Fox Trac Futura 720
I have a 1971 (maybe a little earlier) Fox Trac Futura 720 that I am planning to sell on eBay, and I need as much info as possible. I read somewhere that only like 100 or 200 were made, but I am not sure of anything. I believe it was last registered in 1974
Put it on eBay. You'll get $2,500 or $3,000 for it. If you don't get that high of a bid, don't sell it.
—Don Coleman of www.donsvintagesnowmobiles.com
1/06
1970 Ski-Doo 335 Olympic
I have a 1970 Ski-Doo 335 Olympic. It's in great condition. I am the second owner of this sled. I was just curious, if I ever decided to sell, how much is it worth? Thank you for your time.
A 335 Olympic is great old sled but not particularly valuable, at least not in my area. One in average condition, you would be hard pressed to get much more than $100 to $200. If it was immaculate, you might get as much as $500, but you have to draw out the person who wants it.
—Don Coleman of www.donsvintagesnowmobiles.com
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